ok another update. both orange lights came on meaning 6" to full so i decided to empty it. well it was actually only about 9" to full so it was a little off. next time ill wait until the blue green light comes on before dumping it. other than that it works pretty well. 

working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.